Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
I agree with Jackiey,ive got nothing but praise for Jack for the way he's been Jade's rock over these last few months.
I knew something like this would happen,yes jack did a stupid thing,but no worse than other lads his age when there out on the town,everybody does stupid that they regret when they've had afew too many,he's a young lad,they all do!
He has been by jade's side constantly,he got married and has been widowed in the space of four weeks,the poor lad must be going through hell.
I hope the judge has a heart and atleast puts the date back to after the funeral,he deserves atleast that.
He probably knows what he did was wrong,but he wont be the first to have done something stupid after having afew and deffiantly wont be the last.
Jack has been a rock,he should be allowed to say his last goodbyes to Jade.
I hope he atleast gets to do that.x
Posted 24/03/2009 09:37:16
Posted by lovingmum
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Seems a bit mean after everything thats happened and I know hes been a tower of strength for Jade but this is the real world not lala land where its one rule for one and another for the less fortunate.
Posted 24/03/2009 09:45:38
Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
I'm not saying he should be let off,just sentence him after the funeral.
He kept to his conditions throughout,until he was allowed to take his tag off and its not like he did recently.
Lets not forget how old he is,we all make mistakes and do things we regret,and i'm sure lots of other judges let other people off in the same circumstance,i know someone who was let off with a fine after doing something stupid while drunk,because he had a good job and had a baby on the way!...people just make silly mistakes,so judges can,if they want to, let people off lightly.
Jack will probably get lots of people saying its because of who he is he'l get let off,its not,its because he is a young lad,who regretably was acting a fool when he was drunk!
I hope this can all be sorted AFTER the funeral.
Posted 24/03/2009 10:10:32
Posted by sarie75
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
It would be a great shame if Jack couldn't attend his own wifes funeral. For someone so young he showed strength and compassion beyond his years. He did however, still assault, not one, but two people, one of whom was still a child, in the space of a very short period, and for that he deserves punishment. If it were any old Tom, Dick or Harry the public would be up in arms and demanding that such a person be reprimanded for their crimes, which fortunately Jack Tweed is. I struggle to balance my thoughts and feelings on Jack Tweed out. On the one hand he has my genuine respect and deepest sympathy, but on the other i feel nothing but contempt towards him as i cannot understand how somebody with such strength, love and compassion could inflict the misery he did on others.
Posted 24/03/2009 10:18:37
Posted by Tigerlilly
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Oh please no ones saying he should avoid punishment,were just saying that the date for sentencing could be moved so that he can lay his wife to rest,it's only another 10 days after the orriginal court date,i just hope the judge has more compasion than some of the public.And as for being a NOBODY he was JADES HUSBAND and she'd wont him THERE,she deserves that.Be strong Jack X X X
Posted 24/03/2009 11:04:20
Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Its called being young,silly and nieve!
I'm sure he is full of regret,and would gladly take his punnishment after the funeral.
Judges let people off for such worse crimes on a daily basis,they even "award" monsters anonymity to protect them after their vicious crimes from the public,and pay for them to live free and easy again!
Jack is just a young lad who has shown in these last few months he can do good,and i just think it would be heartbreaking for him to miss his wife's funeral.
I'm sure if he could turn back the clock he would!
Posted 24/03/2009 11:13:59
Posted by is-there-any-need
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Although I do agree that the sentencing should be deferred until after the funeral I don't really think we can blame this on the fact that he is young. Most 21 year old lads I know do not viciously assault two people and use the excuse of drink.
Lets not dilute the seriousness of what he has done by blaming it on his youth as I am sure you would feel differently if the victim was your son, boyfriend, dad, brother or whatever.
Posted 24/03/2009 12:40:48
Posted by alannanelson
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
I hope that Jack is able to attend the funeral. He has shown himself to be a strong young man, the way he has stood by Jade and been there for her throughout her suffering. He has lost his wife, and should be allowed to lay her to rest.
Yes, he has done a terrible thing, and he is aware of this, but the sad truth is that there are people out there everyday who get away with much worse on a regular basis.
RIP JAde, God be with you and the family you have left behind
Posted 24/03/2009 12:48:43
Posted by racheal
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
I really do hope that Jack is able to attend Jade's funeral! Surely the judge will be kind enough to put the date back a bit.
& yeh i agree with Clarabella.. all young lads do what he's done. i see it all the time when i go out.. most of my male friends have done what he's done. alcohol is a bit factor in this..
anyway.. rest in peave jade hunnie. i hope your boys grow up to be lovely young men. & I hope that your family can eventually move on from your tragic death.
much love x
Posted 24/03/2009 13:13:30
Posted by realistxox
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
stupid idea. men miss things like their children growing up, being born, parents passing away when they are in jail. if she hadn't have died then jack might hace been in jail when she did. if you can't do the time then don't do the crime.
Posted 24/03/2009 16:20:05
Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Well is-there-any-need,the same could be said if Jack was your son,brother,dad whatever....you wouldn't want him missing his wife's funeral if he was your family member,whatever he'd done.
So all you lot that don't agree are perfect and have never done anything you regret while drunk?...umm
Posted 24/03/2009 17:22:25
Posted by Tigerlilly
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Well put Clarabella the prison service have let much worse law breakers out to loved one's funerals,even the krays were allowed to lay there mother to rest.Jack commited a crime granted but lets put this into perspective he's young and was drunk,he has'nt killed anyone,he's not a threat to the public so like my mam used to say IF YOU HAVE'NT GOT ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.And ask yourselfs how would you feel if you wer'nt allowed to attend a loved ones funeral bacause of a drink fuled mistake.much love to Jack Jackiey and those sweet little boys x x x
Posted 24/03/2009 18:03:00
Posted by bububu
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
some people are so horrible losers
r.i.p jade my heart gose out to u and all the family xxxx
Posted 24/03/2009 20:34:01
Posted by bububu
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
hope jack can go to is own wifes funreal
its dam out off order if he cant xx
Posted 24/03/2009 20:35:27
Posted by sarie75
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
At the end of the day the guy attacked a sixteen year old with a golf club and assaulted a taxi driver whilst he was driving, how wrong is that?
He's bloody lucky he's not facing a murder charge. You can say he's only 21 and it was fuelled by drink until you're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that he's a grown man and he should have damn well known better than to go smashing a child about with an iron bar and trying to throttle someone whilst they were going about their business and driving. It really annoys me when people start chirping on and saying that if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say it at all. I will say what i please as this is my opinion, you don't have to agree with me.
Posted 24/03/2009 20:54:48
Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
There are lots of grown men and women out there who do by far worse crimes and get let off lightly,if our justice system can give the likes of child killers,rapists,pedo's,murderers,a slap on the wrist and give them free homes,new names,and expect tax payers to pay for them,then they can bloody well let Jack say goodbye to his wife before he gets sentenced!
If they don't then it just proves that our justice system stinks!
Posted 24/03/2009 21:22:11
Posted by sarie75
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
And i completely agree with you Clarabella. In my original comment i stated how i had the sincerest respect for Jack for showing his utter devotion, compassion and strength, but said that i found it hard to understand how someone with such qualities could do what he did to a child and a middle aged man. I also said that it would be a great shame if he were to miss his own wifes funeral. Of course there are many, many people who commit far worse crimes than Jack did but i was merely saying that he still did something unlawful (as we're all well aware.) Of course you can't put him in the same bracket as a paedophile, rapist or killer, but he obviously assaulted two people with the intent to inflict harm and/or injury, and although he never killed, raped or whatever other horrendous crime springs to mind, his crime still shouldn't be looked upon lightly or excuses made regarding his age, alchohol intake etc. But i never once said that he should miss his wifes funeral.
Posted 24/03/2009 22:42:40
Posted by is-there-any-need
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
I agree with Sarie, she is entitled to her opinion as much as the next person. The courts and justice system have an element of compassion and of course they will allow Jack to attend the funeral.
All we have said is not to diminish the seriousness of his crimes in light of the tragedy of what has happened as some of you seem to be saying that any crime carried out in a haze of alcohol shouldn't be punishable... er what?
Posted 25/03/2009 12:21:15
Posted by clarabella
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Err i never said he should be let off,i said the judge should allow him to attend his wife's funeral before sentencing!
I never said because he had been drinking he should be let off!
What i will say again though is Jack is a young lad,they drink and do stupid things they regret,they all do,it doesn't make him a bad person,just one who obviously can't control his drink,fights are always breaking out in bars etc and it all boils down to drinking too much.
I'm sure he feels bad enough by whats happened,and i'm sure he'l take his punishment after he's said his last goodbye's to his lovely wife.
Posted 25/03/2009 14:38:27
Posted by Tigerlilly
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
AND NOBODY HAS SAID HE SHOULD AVOID PUNISHMENT,JUST FOR IT TO BE DEFERRED UNTILL AFTER THE FUNERAL R.I.P.JADE X
Posted 25/03/2009 16:54:57
Posted by sarie75
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
AND I'VE NEVER SUGGESTED THAT THAT IS WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY. You might have realised that had you read my comments correctly.
Jack is a young lad and yes, they do drink and do stupid things. I'm not saying he's a bad person, nor am i saying he doesn't regret what he did. What i am saying is that there's a big difference between a bit of a tussle or fight with somebody, and attacking a CHILD with a golf club and trying to throttle someone whilst they're driving. By making excuses such as his age, alchohol intake and claiming that he's only doing what most MEN his age do, only goes to show me that the majority somehow find this acceptable and normal, and it is neither. No wonder the society we live in today is f****d.
Thank you is-there-any-need for your supportive comment, but i'm afraid it looks like this one's gonna run and run.
Suppose i'll just have to agree to disagree with the majority.
Posted 25/03/2009 20:41:52
Posted by Tigerlilly
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Yes sarie 75 this just seems to be going round in circle's,what will be will be.
Posted 26/03/2009 18:27:38
Posted by sarie75
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Umm, think i just said that!!!
Posted 26/03/2009 20:30:55
Posted by Tigerlilly
RE: Jail threat may keep Jack from Jade's funeral
Whatever was just trying to calm down a heated debate!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 27/03/2009 12:25:51