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Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

Friday 23 July 2010

An unfortunate sequence of events saw a mother and son kill their hamster after wrongly assuming its life wasn’t worth living because of ringworm.

21-year-old Jay Williams attempted to kill little Speedy by plunging its head under water.

However, it survived the first attempt on its life, instigating Jay’s mother Karen, 45, to pop its head into a plastic bottle before submerging it underwater again.

The RSPCA turned up at the Williams’ house after being informed that a horse was being kept there in the back garden. Originally bought for Jay, the Williams acknoweldged that they couldn’t keep Rolo the horse in their back yard.

Jay admitted to killing the hamster after discussing the situation involving the horse with an RSPCA officer.

Yesterday, in court the twosome pleaded guilty to causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Their lawyer Bert Gibson argued that there was “no malicious intent”, continuing: 'They were under the deeply wrong impression the hamster had an incurable disease.'

The prosecuting attorney Judith Curry said: ‘The hamster was exhumed and found to have died from drowning. But it also had severe bruising underneath. It is very likely that the animal had been struggling to get air.’

Their punishment consists of a 12-month community order involving 60 hours of unpaid work each. They were also charged £50 each towards investigation costs and are banned for five years from owning animals.

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

this was a cruel thing to do, poor hamster. but for gods sake there are so many worse crimes that arent being punished!
courts should put cruelty to people above cruelty to animals, sorry but its ridiculous

Posted 23/07/2010 13:29:11

Posted by staceface91

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I agree! All of these terrible things you read about in the paper and see on a day to day basis and these people get a punishment.
The British justice system is so wrong!

Posted 23/07/2010 13:56:01

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

seems these days murdering a hamster is more serious than raping or murdering a human being, or abusing a child

Posted 23/07/2010 14:09:33

Posted by Amyfer55

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To be honest tho most people can defend them selves! a hamster cant! its a small defenceless animal that relies on us to help it survive

In my opinion it levels with human murder and rape.
Its still a life just cos it cant talk or fight back does not make it any less important.

Posted 25/07/2010 22:57:34

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

how did i know someone would make a comment like that???
not being funny love but id much rather someone kill an animal than my child or husband!
a lot of people are unable to defend themselves, ie the elderly and children, against attackers and sexual predators. animals do not understand these concepts, whereas a human being would be haunted by a rape for the rest of their lives!

Posted 25/07/2010 23:47:54

Posted by teampete

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Unbelievable!!! How you can justify the killing of an innocent creature by saying there are worse crimes!!! People who get away with little crimes move on to bigger ones. Cruelty to any living creature large or small is abhorrent and should be punished accordingly. As for their explanation why they killed it..........believe it if you want - I don't

Posted 26/07/2010 09:37:25

Posted by Lily-Grace

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so because they killed an animal means they are going to progress to murdering humans??
get real

Posted 26/07/2010 10:23:37

Posted by teampete

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Lily-Grace - You must know this family to be trying to justify what they have done, killing an innocent hamster, keeping a horse in their yard and then "id much rather someone kill an animal than my child or husband!' Like people should be allowed to kill animals so that they dont kill people!! Doh!!!

Posted 26/07/2010 12:44:38

Posted by sugar sweet

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omg im so soppy about animals and the thought of a poor little hampster being drowned and suffering unnessesarily brings tears to my eyes! that being said amyfer55 ur comment is absolutely ludicrous! how can killing a hampster be level with rape and murder? they were trying to put it out of its misery and yes they didnt go the right way about it and the poor little thing suffered more as a result but get a grip! my boyfriend once killed his fish because the poor thing was so old it didnt eat, had all these growths on it and couldnt even swim does that make him as bad as a f*****g murderer! of course not you idiot

Posted 26/07/2010 12:48:34

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

teampete, no i do not know this family, and i am not justifying what they have done at all. i just think it is absolutely ridiculous that this is getting media attention when there are so many other worse crimes going on in the world!
you really are away with the fairies arent you?!
animal cruelty is wrong, and these people should have been punished, but in my opinion attention should be more focused on the people that commit crimes against the human race!

Posted 26/07/2010 13:30:02

Posted by TruthTeller2010

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They drowned it because it had ringworm? and they didnt think of taking it to a vet?

I don't think people were being intentionally cruel but they are just plain stupid . Not just because of the poor hamster but because they had a horse in their backgarden....... thank goodness they got a ban from keeping anymore animals.

Posted 27/07/2010 13:17:56

Posted by Julie08

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I think killing and animal or killing a person is still killing and a crime is still a crime at the end of the day so people need to be punished accordingly.

Posted 27/07/2010 15:50:08

Posted by Julie08

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

I think killing an animal or killing a person is still killing and a crime is still a crime at the end of the day so people need to be punished accordingly.

Posted 27/07/2010 15:50:44

Posted by sugar sweet

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

so if you use ant powder to kill ants or a fly spray or kill a spider or whatever you should be fined and punished?? what about trapping rats and mice which is done all over the uk to stop spreading disease, ooh and what about animals killed for consumption, pigs, chickens, lamb, cows etc etc, or vets who give the injection to put an animal down?

Posted 27/07/2010 16:14:10

Posted by Lily-Grace

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couldnt have put it better myself sugar sweet!

Posted 27/07/2010 16:57:43

Posted by Evermore

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To all you idiots who think drowning a hamster rather than taking it to a vet or rehoming centre should hang your head in shame. What a complete low life you must be, I pitty any animal you ever own. Ofcourse killing or raping a human is a terrible thing but you can't compare the two. People can try defend themselves, a tiny hamster the size of your palm can't. If a member of your family became ill, would you drown them? No, didn't think so.
Drowning a human or an animal is an inhumane thing to do. Get a grip of yourself.

For you people to say it's not important enough to be punished baffles me.

If you were in the park and someone was drowning their dog in a pond, would you try stop them or just think "thank god that's not a human"

Posted 30/07/2010 18:59:41

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

nobody would think like that, and i for one would be the first to go over and stop someone from drowning a bloody dog, but would you not be more shocked if it was someone drowning a human being??

Posted 30/07/2010 21:54:36

Posted by mharis123

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Actually lily grace it has been proven in a lot of serial killer, rapist cases that the looneys who carry out these crimes often start with animals to help their 'craving' so to speak. It is a sign of control and there is nothing more controlling than hurting or killing something or someone that is smaller/weaker than you and can't defend themselves. An example of a killer that started off on animals is Ted Bundy im sure most of you are aware of him?

So yes being cruel to anything or anybody should always come with a punishment and in the more serious of animal cruelty cases that person should be moniterd or given a psychiatric assessment. Some of you may think this seems a bit harsh but I certainlly dont and i also do not think it is a waste of time any money which is often the response of people on here.

Posted 31/07/2010 02:24:11

Posted by Lily-Grace

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what im saying is that humans should be prioritised above animals!

Posted 31/07/2010 09:58:40

Posted by mharis123

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And what im saying is that in order to be able to protect humans against these type of people is to look for smaller crimes which many people may find irrelevant. Although in saying that animals deserve to be treated with the upmost respect as you would expect yourself

Posted 31/07/2010 13:48:25

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

bottom line is that the Judicial system in this country is f**ked up, people get away with far worse crimes than the one mentioned in this article.

Posted 31/07/2010 15:02:54

Posted by sugar sweet

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another point is that they were actually trying to help the poor little mite by putting it out of its misery ok they have gone a different way about it but whether they took it to a vet, drowned it hit it on the head or whatever they still killed it so are you all saying that that is a crime worth going to prison for? because in that case where would it end? read my comment above if you think it is a punishment worth prison or whatever for killing a hampster then what about every other animal that gets killed?

Posted 02/08/2010 09:19:36

Posted by Kate989589

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[quote] so because they killed an animal means they are going to progress to murdering humans??
get real [quote]

Thompson and venebles killed and totured animals for years before brutally taking little jamies life, as did Ian Brady. Your probably far too young to even know of their notorious crimes. But if you did ANY research other than just reading closer and making stupid comments you'd know alot of mass murderers were sadistic to animals long before they preyed on children.

Posted 03/08/2010 21:51:13

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

dont patronise me you smarmy idiot. i have read the stories about these horrific crimes, and my father actually used to be friends with the poor lad who was taken from Ashton Under Lyne market by Hindley and Brady. im sure you'd feel the same way about this story if someone killed a member of your family and didnt get the sentence they deserved, yet these people were punished for trying to put an animal out of its misery.
I can speak from experience as well, my brother was stabbed to death in a random attack 8 years ago, and the scum that did it got 8 years for manslaughter. the guy got off with a murder charge, because he was off his face on drugs, which is illegal anyway! so basically he will have served 4 years and been freed if he behaved himself inside.
my brother may as well have been this fucking hamster!

Posted 03/08/2010 22:22:43

Posted by sugar sweet

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

kate can you not tell the difference between torture and someone trying to put a hampster out of its misery? they didnt go the right way about it but i dont think they were beig sadistic! that point is completely different to what the story is about anyway, do you all seriously honestly think that killing a person and killing an animal compare and that killing an animal should result in a prison sentance? because where would it end? and thats coming from an animal lover i would never hurt an animal i cant even squich a bug!

Posted 04/08/2010 15:27:58

Posted by sugar sweet

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lily-grace im sorry for your loss as well thats absolutely disgusting and disgraceful that they didnt get longer makes me sick to my stomach! and these lot want to lock people up for trying to put a hampster out of its misery!

Posted 04/08/2010 15:42:46

Posted by svipa

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

BANNED FROM HAVING PETS FOR 5 YEARS?? SO IN 5 YEARS TIME THEY CAN DO IT AGAIN? WOW! SO MUCH FOR CARING FOR ANIMALS HUH! SICK TWISTED WORLD.

Posted 05/08/2010 00:25:22

Posted by svipa

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ALSO THERES THIS THING CALLED A VETENARY CLINIC!!!

Posted 05/08/2010 00:27:47

Posted by lil_jo_c

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the comments on this board are so unnecessary!!!
Animal abuse should be punishable and these awful people should be banned from owning animals for life.
These people aren't being sent to prison either - they are carrying out 60 hours community service and paying a pretty pathetic fine. Do you honestly feel that people who torture and abuse animals should be allowed to get away with it?

Posted 05/08/2010 13:33:12

Posted by lorenzo1

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i killed a gold fish once by not feeding it - REPORT ME NOW!!!

Posted 09/08/2010 12:53:21

Posted by carrie ann

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I think it is a wee shame on the hamster but i do think some of you are over exsaggerating. I love animals and would never harm one or let anyone harm one in front of me. x

Posted 10/08/2010 12:27:51

Posted by yourworstnightmare

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lily grace how dare you only a hamster ! how about we tourture you as you are a sad excuse for a person who does not deserve to live having those evil thoughts bet you tourture animals yourself you are pure evil

Posted 09/09/2010 13:53:37

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Mum & son convicted of killing hamster

lmfao grow up you idiot! i dont keep animals as i have asthma, allergies and a small child.
as said above, they werent torturing the animal they were trying to put it out of its misery, and my initial point was that this got media attention when there are murders of HUMANS that dont! if the justice system was sufficient for the crimes against humans then nobody would have a problem.
how dare you say i am pure evil who doesnt deserve to live. what are you some crazy f**ked up idiot who shares your home with a menagerie of animals??!!! Seriously, get therapy

Posted 09/09/2010 20:56:04

Posted by Lily-Grace

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lmfao grow up you idiot! i dont keep animals as i have asthma, allergies and a small child.
as said above, they werent torturing the animal they were trying to put it out of its misery, and my initial point was that this got media attention when there are murders of HUMANS that dont! if the justice system was sufficient for the crimes against humans then nobody would have a problem.
how dare you say i am pure evil who doesnt deserve to live. what are you some crazy f**ked up idiot who shares your home with a menagerie of animals??!!! Seriously, get therapy

Posted 09/09/2010 20:56:08

Posted by jess123

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i just read some of the comments on here and i have to say some of you need to get a life and not get so stupid about a silly little animal.. okay no one and nothing deserves to die but come on!! i genuinely think they were being honest about it just doing it in the wrong way. and lets face it...you telling me your a vegetarian? you've never ran anything over before? please. and the person who thought it was as serious as rape and murder....well i wonder what planet your living on!!

Posted 04/11/2010 17:41:35

Posted by k1997 x

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Its a fucking rodent dose eny1 even care !!!

Posted 13/05/2012 14:16:37



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