Posted by Morethan2braincells
RE: ‘My big gypsy divorce better than my wedding!'
I didn't think gypsies could get a divorce as it was against their community culture to do so? Also they take pride in their privacy, so I wouldn't have thought her in laws were happy about this article being published!!
Posted 15/02/2011 11:36:11
Posted by ange76
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“Gypsies never talk about money,” too right they dont, especially when the tax man comes calling.
Posted 15/02/2011 11:47:33
Posted by LindaDalton
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I'm not a gypsy but I find your comments offensively ignorant ange76
Posted 15/02/2011 14:03:44
Posted by sugar sweet
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gypsies dont need to pay council tax as they input their own sanatations and dont use council resources, however much of themoney they eran is cash in hand for things like scrap and so they should pay income tax like the rest of us!!!! i actually think we could learn a lot from their culture, sure there are the things like "grabbing" and fightng which are wrong but they stick together like a family should and actually have quite strong morals!
Posted 15/02/2011 16:04:24
Posted by hayleyf419
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i think gypsy and traveller morals are exactly what us 'country people' need to be brought up with they have the up most respect 4 themselvs and there community all prejudice should stop there people jst like us all and shouldnt be looked down on personally i admire the lot of them
Posted 16/02/2011 20:13:28
Posted by n.s
RE: ‘My big gypsy divorce better than my wedding!'
No one should have to stay in an unhappy or violent marriage no matter
what your culture states. I have very mixed opinions on their way of life. A
lot of it sickens me, especially the so called grabbing, and dressing 6 year old little girls like a peodofiles dream (which I personally think is digusting). But then you have their high morals reguarding young girls
not sleeping around, which I think we could learn a thing or two from.
As for throwing a divorce party, good luck to her, I bet there's a lot of down trodden women who would love to do the same reguardless of
what culture or background they're from.
Posted 17/02/2011 09:16:43
Posted by lil nutter
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i am sorry it has work out like this in divorce it makes no mater what or where you come from there is good and bad in all our communitys and very hard working fairground people and Gypsys and settled communitys but few let us all down no desent girl should but up with the life she put up with the young man needs help and i hope he gets it has far has the big gypsy wedding there was a lot of playing up for the cameras and publisity for niko they only showed the rich Gypsy and Travellers not the likes of who i work with god bless you all better next time i hope
Posted 17/02/2011 12:50:17
Posted by MGS
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I agree with n.s here, I also think it's extremely wrong to allow children as young as 8 to wear flase eyelashes, fake tan, make up [the works] and to then allow them tyo dance how they were dancing on 'my big fat gypsy wedding' is disturbing. I also think is a person wishes to get a divorce, then it should be left to their disgression, not the disgression of traditionalists.
Posted 18/02/2011 12:33:09
Posted by kat1
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I find it disturbing some of you say you 'admire the lot of them' ok, ill come and trash your land, pay naff all tax, be blatently rude and ignorant toward non gypsys, and just generaly act like i am above the law. would you admire me? doubtful.
Posted 18/02/2011 13:38:35
Posted by BabiAmz
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kat1, how ignorant of you!! I live in a village where a lot of Travellers live and 99% of them have such respect for the people and the village. To be honest its the non-travellers that trash the place, try to rob it, open brothels e.c.t. I may not understand 99% of what they are saying (due to strong accents), but if you show them respect, they will show you the same in return. Surley if you could you would pay 'naff all tax'!! And I agree with a lot of the previous comments and I do 'admire' them in certain ways, like their high morals, not sleeping around and being there for eachother LIKE A FAMILY!!
Posted 22/02/2011 09:22:14
Posted by BabiAmz
RE: ‘My big gypsy divorce better than my wedding!'
Posted 22/02/2011 09:22:33
Posted by MGS
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BabiAmz - Is it morally high to allow children as young as 7/8 years old to prance about wearing something an 18 year old would wear on a night out?
Im neither here, nor there where 'travellers' are concerned, but surely you can't think that's[^^] aceptable?
Posted 22/02/2011 15:49:35
Posted by BabiAmz
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MGS - I by no means said I agreed with the clothes they wear, and I do not think its morally high for their children to be allowed to dress that way. However if you have a look on sale for young people its not much better (i do not agree with this either).
All I was merly trying to point out was that not all travellers act like they are above the law and are rude to non-travellers. You cannot tie them all with the same string as they are different. Its like saying 'All Muslim's are terrorists' which we know is not true but you wouldn't say that.
The qualities I admire are the fact they are so family orientated, that girls do not sleep around before they are married, that they stick together through thick and thin. I believe a lot of 'non-travellers' would be better off if they followed their example of these morals. That way we would have fewer teenage pregnancies, less divorce ect.
Posted 23/02/2011 11:27:57
Posted by gipsy
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im a gipsy and my kids dont dress like that and all my famley pay tax so how can you juge us all the same we dont do any of that bull and it wood pay most non gipsys to take a leff out of are book and look after your oaps as they have looked haveter you .i may not live in a big house and may never aford to but i have more morals then most of you and respect my older gipsy or non gipsy so befor you juge learn the facts ..........
Posted 25/02/2011 21:45:41
Posted by BabiAmz
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Posted 28/02/2011 08:44:00
Posted by MGS
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@Gipsy - The generic way a gypsy is percieved in society is someone who lives in a caravan, doesn't pay tax etc and moves around a lot and is more often than not, rude to non-travellers, especially in my own personal experience as we used to have gypsys living in the fields near us when I was a kid. Its just a generalisation and isnt a direct attack you as a 'gypsy' person. Do you know how generalisations come about? Because the people in question put them there in the first place! Do you think that in society, gypsys just randomly got their reputation out of thin air? People think badly of them because a lot of them have gained that reputation through their own repertoire.
I definantly dont think that all gypsys are the same, there are bad apples on every society. Its not that everyone is judging you personally, just going off something that is clearly in direct connection with your way of life.
Posted 28/02/2011 13:05:58
Posted by BabiAmz
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@MGS - I find your attitude towards Gypsy's very disturbing. I too had a bad experience with them as a child, but that does not mean I judge them all the same. You say you don't think all Gypsys are the same yet what you are saying contradicts this.
I am not surprised she see'd this a a direct attack and it isn't gypsy's that started generalisations!! There is generalisations in all society's!! People look at me like I am a piece of dirt as I am 20 and pregnant. What they don't realise is I have worked non-stop since 15, have been with my partner for 3 years, we live together and are engaged! But if I go to doc or hospital app without my partner they all look at me like I am just a little girl that sleeps around!! Generalisations come around becuase people who arn't part of a certain group in society judge everybody that is in that society the same which is not the case.
Posted 28/02/2011 13:55:03
Posted by MGS
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Its obvious there's a problem here - either I have come across in the wrong way OR your completely misunderstanding what I have said.
I really couldn't care about gypsys. I dont like them, I dont dislike them, they are just another cog in the machine as far as Im concerned. Thus I'm on neutral terms. I was simply outlining the reasons as to why other people may have a problem with gypsys. Having heard a lot of people talking about gypsys since that god awful show 'my big fat gypsy wedding' which does nothing but exploit gypsys anyway. I really dont see what your problem is, and the fact that you find my attitude 'disturbing' shows me you know nothing of the word.
As far as stereotyping is concerned, it's always been around and always will be.
Posted 28/02/2011 14:02:34
Posted by n.s
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I don't think MGS deserved that comment. ( and we have disagreed on other issues, so I don't always defend her) but she is simply stating
gypsy's have a reputation, which has been built up over many years. Whether they deserve it or not is another question, but I know quite a few people who have lived near their sites that think they probably do. But as she said there are good and bad in every culture, so obviously
they are not all bad, no one is saying that, but I would bet there are also
a lot who do deserve their reputation.
Posted 28/02/2011 14:23:39
Posted by BabiAmz
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I can assure you I do understand the meaning of the word disturbing. I am just merley putting my point across and letting you know my opinion on what you are saying, which last time i checked was allowed.
I have grown up with Gypsy's my whole life, both in the town I grew up in and the village I live in now. It just annoys me when people generalise as this has happened to myself and it is not nice.
Sterotyping has always been around but it doesn't mean it always has to be...this is the 21st century. Its about time we changed our attitudes
Posted 28/02/2011 14:44:35
Posted by MotherHen
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@gipsey It's such a shame that literacy is way down on your priorities or what you said would have been quite interesting. It took me several attempts to decipher what you had written.
It's a shame that traveller children cannot have an education like other children which leaves them disadvantaged. Their parents might do well to remember that.
Posted 01/03/2011 02:56:51
Posted by true brit
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morals of alley cats
Posted 03/03/2011 09:21:52
Posted by EmmJ
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@true brit- I don't like the fact that you said:
"literacy is way down on your priorities" as you do not know this.
The way that children from the 'gypsy' way of life are being educated has changed greatly over recent years.
Surely it would be down to the parents to ensure that their children receive a decent education.
Gipsey's children may have been educated differently. How could we possibly know this from what has already been posted?
Posted 07/06/2011 18:30:50
Posted by Sammy_Lou
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@true brit- The way you talk about gypsy children's education and gypsy literacy is very demoralizing. Did you ever go to school with a proper gypsy? Proper as in Romany, thorough bred? Did you see how they were immediately singled out and bullied because of the bad reputation 'wanna be gypsies' had got them? I've grew up with gypsies my whole life, Romany is in my family also! The way society is prejudice about their way of life is appalling!! They are ALOT cleaner, have much higher morals and values, than you Gorja folk! A proper Romany is the nicest person you could ever meet, full of respect, very well-mannered. It is shameful that you could be so disrespectful in your opinion! Gypsy parents teach their children what they can, what they know themselves! I wonder if you would be so quick to judge against asian culture, or other cultures, probably not!
Posted 10/10/2011 04:11:03
Posted by worlds fair
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The way Violet Cannon has portrayed Travelling Showmen in her book; reinforces that she is also racist. As a Travelling showman; this book has deeply offended me. She also insinuates that her husband was responsible for the theft of her belongings!!
Perhaps her ex husband would like to write his own memoirs about life with Violet Cannon. If she is an advocate for showman and circus travellers then heaven help. AD BA (Hons) PGdip
Posted 24/07/2012 18:44:02
Posted by Nickyjane 1982
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Half of you on here have you not of you never no what's goes on behind closed doors.don't be to quick.if u no fair workers you would no that they are worlds apart from proper gypsy,but many think just because they live in trailers they same but it's worlds apart.
Posted 20/10/2012 21:19:58
Posted by Nickyjane 1982
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Half of you on here have you not of you never no what's goes on behind closed doors.don't be to quick.if u no fair workers you would no that they are worlds apart from proper gypsy,but many think just because they live in trailers they same but it's worlds apart.
Posted 20/10/2012 21:20:01
Posted by irish traveller gal
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ye dont have a clue what yr talking about . ye can sit on yr ass all day and judge us . we can do it to . what about all the country men that are peadafiles rapists druggies murderers in gangs that go around stabbing people . what do ye have to say about that . yeah we have a different dress sense to ye but its r kids that choose there clothes . we just make them happy . we have more morals than ye we dont go around sleeeping with guys . i have seen country girls naked sleeping with guys in an alley way . she had no respect for her self . also a romany , gypsy and traveller are not the same cos if some one called me a gypsy i would go mental . dont paint us all with the same brush .
Posted 03/05/2013 09:06:27