Posted by teampete

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Pay for it yourself you greedy s****. Why do people think they should get everything for free. Get a bank loan - save your wages - you've had more than long enough to save. The state has paid 60 grand on you whilst it's refusing other people life saving cancer treatment and now your planing on using more taxpayers money to sue!!! Scum!

Posted 02/07/2010 10:32:33

Posted by sugar sweet

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i completely agree!!!! why the hell should a boob job be free on the nhs for anyone!!!! its nothing to do with the fact that he was a man its just nott right as when you quite rightly said there are people who are refused cancer drugs as they are too expensive! i might just decide i want to become a man and get them to make me a c**k while people are dying due to lack of resources! disgusting! i also think gastric bands etc shouldnt be nhs funded as it is a lifestyle choice to become fat or turn yourself into the opposite sex but you dont choose if you become sick! has he not had enough out of the tax payers hes become a women at the cost of 60k but now not only wants a boob job but is suing the overly stretched and under resourced nhs for more money! oh and how is he doing it with bloody legal aid!!!!!!! this story is infuriating!

Posted 02/07/2010 10:44:14

Posted by PCF

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I can understand this individual has a mental health problem and has had surgery from man to woman to try and correct it but does Miranda really need a breast augmentation to feel 100% woman? Many women are flat-cheasted and surgery can bring many complications. Many women would like the chance to have the surgery but cannot afford it so now Miranda has had the transition, what makes her different from any other flat-chester woman? I do agree with the previous comments, the NHS's money could be well spent on a different department.

Posted 02/07/2010 15:28:34

Posted by whocares

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Sponger get a job and save!

Posted 02/07/2010 16:13:58

Posted by whocares

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Sponger get a job and save!

Posted 02/07/2010 16:14:02

Posted by whocares

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Sponger get a job and save!

Posted 02/07/2010 16:14:04

Posted by Miss Lucy

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Have to agree with the other posters - there is no way this person deserves another penny from the NHS!! I have friends with completely flat chests and yes it isn't the best but they have learned to deal with it and make do. Surely Ms. Lee would have thought ahead of her original surgery to check the breast op was going to be available? She should be grateful for what she has already had given to her. If its that big a deal then work and save - you can get finance options to pay it off over a period of time with most major plastic surgeons anyway.

Posted 05/07/2010 14:29:58

Posted by Natty87

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Simple answer. NO!!! There are many people being refused life saving operations and medications each year because they are too expensive. I was born with a birthmark on my leg which start's from my foot and finishes at my bottom. It could be lazerd off but I have learned to live with it. I am completely healthy and would not be able to live with myself knowing I have taken money from the NHS just to look good on a Friday night in a skirt when people are dying through genuine medical conditions. (I have worked from leaving school so do also pay my taxes) I am disgusted in people like this. If you wanted boobs that much you would have saved up by now you SCUM bag.

Posted 09/07/2010 13:12:57

Posted by Miss Cox

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Boobs will not make you a woman anyway. Leave the money for the women with breast cancer.
SELFISH SELFISH SELFISH.

Posted 09/07/2010 15:59:15

Posted by babykates

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I completely agree with all comments. Although some people think breasts make a woman, it is not. It is how you feel inside that makes you who you are, so as long as this is the case then you are a woman. I have a lot of flat chested friends but none of them would dream to have it done on the NHS as it is a waste of money and is very selfish!

Posted 11/07/2010 13:46:29

Posted by YerMaw

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Being transgender myself I think you should pay for it yourself. Women have flat chests too. Moaning like a f*ckin idiot about a boob job, when FtMs can’t even get theirs removed (seen as NECESSARY surgery for them to live a normal life!!! Just as your vag is necessary! FtMs can’t even get lower surgery because it’s not even anywhere near up to scratch like MtFs lower surgery and it’s far too expensive, the least they could get is surgery to REMOVE them, but noooooooooo! Cause of all the trannies greeting their tits are like fried eggs. Get real!). MtFs need to get a grip, they get their vaginas on the NHS they can get a f*ckin job and pay for their own tits. I’ve had to pay for ALL my treatment, I was only 16 when I started transition, and if I can do it, so can you. Oh and as for feeling like a half woman half man, welcome to FtMs world! They end up looking like manly MtFs because they can’t get lower surgery. Maybe you shouldn’t think you are so unfortunate if you thought about others outside your stupid wee box. Oh and as for people getting cancer treatment and transgender funding taking their money/ treatment w/e WRONG- because they come from different funding within the NHS. Maybe screw your head on before you blabber about sh*t.

Posted 14/07/2010 18:11:25

Posted by sugar sweet

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i think ur the one talking s**t! its still tax payer and nhs money you fool!!! the point is the money thats paying for people to change their bits should be used for people with life threatening illnesses it doesnt matter that its from a different department or whatever! i know i cant understand what its like because im not transgender but come on!

Posted 15/07/2010 10:52:00

Posted by Miss Lucy

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sorry I have to agree with sugar sweet on that one! saving people lives from cancer/fatal illnesses is more important than people wanting to mutilate their genitals!! It all comes out of the public purse and is of no consequence that it is then divided up into different departments.

Posted 15/07/2010 10:57:04

Posted by sugar sweet

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exactly so what your saying yermaw is that its ok to spend money on slicing off willies and creating fannies taking away people's treatment for cancer because it comes form different departments!!!! what a warped comment it makes no difference its still being taken away from people that really need it, different department or not!! sorry this stroy has angered me not only has the man used a load of public money to get a fanny but now hes using public money to pay the legal fees to sue the nhs for not giving more surgery!!!! what a waste!

Posted 15/07/2010 11:20:23

Posted by Lily-Grace

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i agree, if people want to change their sex then they should be last on the list of priorities, especially seeing as the NHS struggle to save poorly babies and terminally ill people with the budget they have. if these transgender people have mental health issues then give them a bit of therapy, not tens of thousands of pounds worth of treatment! cosmetic surgery on the NHS should be strictly for people with deformities, or those who need reconstructive surgery for example after a mastectomy. Its all very well saying that they are depressed, but how do you think people cope with their problems in poor countries with no NHS? if they cant afford treatment they have to build their bridges, and get the f**k over it!

Posted 17/07/2010 23:49:30

Posted by YerMaw

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No I’m not saying it’s okay to do anything, but are you saying it’s okay to stop people who have physical deformities to be forced to pay for their own? Well in a way I think some of it should be paid by the person who is transgender, like one surgery, so they are comfortable in their own skin, then get a job to pay for the rest. It’s tax payers money aye, but people who don’t work pay taxes too, everything is taxed in the UK. But I guess you’ve forgot about that. Oh and while we are at why don’t we stop people with depression getting their anti-depressants and stays in hospital…because they aren’t “life threatening”. Transgenderism is more life threatening than you may think, obviously, but you’re quick to judge. It isn’t a mental illness unless untreated and then it can turn to depression/ anxiety/ suicidal tendencies. Cancer can kill faster than transgenderism, but they are both as deadly as each other. You just don’t hear about it in the news/ press as often. I think every one is entitled to NHS treatment in the UK, I should have had my stuff on the NHS but for people like YOU (people who pay MORE tax) I thought it would ease off some of the strain. But I guess you all don’t give a f*ck because you live a perfect life, clearly ;) disagree all you like, you’re entitled to that ;) God help you if any of your kids/ family members turn out to be transgender. I guess you’ll be either fitting the bill or disowning them then? Since it’s such a crime to get off the NHS…which is NATIONAL health service.

Posted 19/07/2010 14:34:37

Posted by Miss Lucy

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Sorry Yermaw but your comments are scrambled and make no sense whatsoever!!

One minute you're saying that depression isn't life threatening so shouldn't be covered on NHS....then next sentence you claim that transgenderism leads to depression/anxiety and is therefore life-threatening...

WHAT?!?!

If my child or a family member happened to be transgender then I would encourage them to go out and earn the money to pay for the surgery themselves! And help them out with money I had earned and saved over the years...it's called being self sufficient and non-reliant on our pathetic nanny state that has spawned spongers like yourself who believe they are entitled to the world and more...!

If the plight of transgenders is that desperate I'm sure some campaigning or charity could help these poor individuals get the money they need. It shouldn't be coming out of the NHS!!

Posted 19/07/2010 14:48:29

Posted by Lily-Grace

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if someone in my family had 'transgenderism' i would help them anyway i could, even getting a loan if necessary, but the NHS is struggling to help the people who are ill, for many reasons. depression caused by transgenderism can be helped by therapy and medication. premature babies and cancer patients do not have this option. all im saying is that boob jobs on the NHS should be nowhere near as high on the list of priorities as those people!

Posted 19/07/2010 14:55:04

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

there are many women who are very flat chested, and whom are very depressed by it, does that mean they should be entitled to flitter away the budget of the national health service on cosmetic surgery????

Posted 19/07/2010 14:56:15

Posted by YerMaw

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Oh wait I forgot to put *SENSE SARCASM????* cause you are obviously too stupid to actually realise I was being sarcastic, hence why it seemed scrambled in your head. Okay, to put it in simple terms: if mental health treatment is allowed and every one sees it as acceptable then surely something which is a cause of depression should be treated to an extent, since it would save thousands on anti-depressants and hospital stays? No? If they treat the cause, they treat the majority of the depression. That’s what I was saying but I forgot that not everyone actually has a clue what happens to people who are transgender.

Posted 19/07/2010 15:01:25

Posted by YerMaw

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Okay, so say your child is transgender?
Child: I’m transgender, I need help, I can’t deal with it anymore.
Parent: go out and pay for surgery your self, don’t sponge off the NHS.
Child: I need help now! I’ve been suppressing these feelings for so long, I feel like I’m going to burst. I need help now, If I don’t do something soon I’m going to crash.
Parent: tough sh*t princess, get a f*cking job and pay for your own mutilation!
Child: *commits suicide*

What fabulous parenting, clearly. Oh and btw, that’s exactly how it is. People wait so long to pluck up the courage to tell people of their problems by the time they tell people it’s so bad they want to die. Would you rather your child die than get help now? I really hope you don’t say yes. It would be such a shame.

I hope you have well over £100,000 saved away for their appointments, counselling hormones and surgery. That goes to anyone who thinks it’s as simple as waking up in the morning and getting dressed in the opposite genders’ clothing. Cause it’s not that straightforward at all.

Spongers like myself? Can’t you read? I’ve had ZERO transgender treatment on the NHS and I’m only ONE surgery away from being “normal” so what are you going to say to that? OMG A TRANNY WHO ACTUALLY WORKS! WOW! Shush.

Oh and guess what? I do charity events for transgender people, I raise money, I even put money in a saving account out of my own wages, to help them pay for their hormones and surgery…so, I don’t think you have any rights to call me a sponger. I’m actually TRYING to help the situation in this country and beyond in regards to transgender people, so the NHS isn’t swamped. Oh and did I forget to mention I’m 21? It’s more than what most 21 y/o are doing these days. And before you say it, yes I do want a chocolate medal. Thanks x

Posted 19/07/2010 15:01:42

Posted by Lily-Grace

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

well do what all the women in England do who are flat chested and hate the way they look! wear padded bras and use chicken fillets!
dont think you're in a position to slag off anyones parenting if you're not a parent yourself LOVE
and as for the comment about suicide, get a grip. people commit suicide for all sorts of reasons, a lot of which cannot be helped by using taxpayers money for cosmetic surgery. fair enough if you want your genitals made into those of the opposite sex, but there are plenty of women with completely flat chests, they dont get boob jobs!

Posted 19/07/2010 16:11:17

Posted by Miss Lucy

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I think the NHS should fund counselling for ppl who are transgender but stop it there. At the end of the day the cost of treating just one individual is enormous and it isn't fair that people with actual ILLNESSES are being denied treatment because of lack of funding while it is being spent on these intricate, expensive procedures.

Lots of things lead to depression and anxiety. Alcohol/drug addiction being one of the main contributors. Addicts do not receive free rehab treatment on the NHS and this probably results in far more deaths than disgruntled transgenders.

Think about it. And please I really am not interested in you as a person so enough with your life story!!

Posted 19/07/2010 16:16:36

Posted by Lily-Grace

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here here!

Posted 19/07/2010 16:39:03

Posted by YerMaw

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Lily I was agreeing with you about the whole flat-chested stuff and the fact they should pay for boob jobs their selves, lol.

As for parenting, how do you know I’m not a parent? I may not have had a child naturally but I have looked after a child while my close family member had cancer during pregnancy. So don’t think I don’t know how it feels to be affected with cancer or raising a child. I know all fine well! And yes I am grateful my close family member got treatment, from funding in the NHS. When she was ill, I had come out and sought help…PRIVATELY. Not NHS.

Yes people commit suicide for allsorts of reasons but they should all be treated equally. Not just because you think it’s a made-up medical condition. You are the reason that people are afraid to come out and seek help. You and the rest. So congratulations for slowing down the development of the human race, sweetheart!

Posted 19/07/2010 17:01:59

Posted by YerMaw

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Lucy- I do believe that transgenderism/ transsexualism is an ACTUAL illness. Did you actually go to medical school/ study psychology/ sociology? Obviously not. It is actually a recognised medical condition which treatment is funded under the NHS. If you all have such a problem with it then do what the transgender people did all they years ago and get off your arses and make a change. If you are all so unhappy about it, let Downing Street know. They are the only ones who will make a change. If you can’t be bothered, shut up and stop moaning about it. I don’t like it either, I don’t see why they should get boob jobs on the NHS. These transgender people are suppose to be equal people, but even I can see they are being treated better than normal woman. After all, if a genetic female has a flat chest, she has to pay for her own surgery…so I think transgendered females have to do the same.

Lucy, except alcoholism is a choice, transgenderism isn’t...please use another example if you wish to make me out to be an uneducated idiot, thanks.

I am glad you have no interest in me nor my life story, go join Lily in the under-developed human being category.

I was agreeing with people here, it makes me wonder why you suddenly start assuming I’m disagreeing. Sad, pathetic individuals. I pray to God none of your family are affected with any deformity/ illnesses/ conditions, your heads are seriously up your arses.

Bring on the arguments, I’m enjoying laughing at your weak attempts at trying to seem like you give a sh*t about anything other than your own self-worth! LOL.

Posted 19/07/2010 17:04:31

Posted by Lily-Grace

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under-developed human being??
lmfao ive got boobs love, developed them at 14!!!

Posted 19/07/2010 18:18:05

Posted by YerMaw

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

HAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAA YOU THINK I WANT BOOBS! LOL! Wow, you really ARE under-developed! That’s what you get for guessing! ;)

Posted 19/07/2010 18:43:32

Posted by YerMaw

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Just so that you know, I am intersex which comes under as transgender. But that’s what you get for guessing in regards to me being transsexual. Hence why i never said transsexual at any point in anything I said. They are two totally different things. Oh and by the way…I have boobs too…I developed them at 14 also…do I win a prize? ;)

Posted 19/07/2010 18:48:09

Posted by Lily-Grace

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oh shut up you pathetic freak of nature. i dont even know why you are commenting cos this about the NHS being underfunded, and that boob jobs should not be a priority. if there was a prize for being an opinionated interfering idiot then you would most certainly win it!
you can however educate me a little - does 'intersex' mean you were born a hermaphrodite??

Posted 19/07/2010 18:59:07

Posted by Miss Lucy

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Your over-enthusiasm is cringeful to see YerMaw!!

If me and Lily are such stupid "underdeveloped human beings" then why are u going to such great lengths to argue with us?! Does our opinion really matter THAT much to you?!

I suggest you get back to your highly important and well paid "job" and "fund-raising" and being the world's greatest achieving most charitable martyr for cancer, transgenderism and every other medical condition under the sun. Quite a life for a 21 year old!

Lol

Posted 20/07/2010 10:45:02

Posted by Lily-Grace

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i smell a bit of b**lshit!

Posted 20/07/2010 10:55:05

Posted by Lynne01

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I haven't read all the comments because it upsets me so much. As the mother of a Transgendered teenager I know that surgery is 100 percent life saving and necessary. The feeling of being a freak because your brain and body don't match must be awful. I've watched my child change before my eyes into a person who now has practically no life because of the negative feelings she feels towards herself and that the people around her display.
As an aside it's really hard for these people to get jobs as the Dept of Work and pensions refuse to change their status from Miss to Mr or Mr to Miss even though they can get it changed on their passport

Posted 20/07/2010 13:08:32

Posted by Lily-Grace

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i feel for you, i really do. the point we are trying to make is that breast augmentation should not be paid for by the NHS, and by suing them for not doing it Miranda Lee is going to be taking yet more funds from the system. nobody is saying that transgenderism is not an illness, but if people who are born women have to deal with having flat chests then why shouldnt trans gender people? being flat chested can affect women very badly, make them feel like men, affect relationships and psychological state, but if they arent entitled to boob jobs on the NHS then why should Miranda Lee get one?

Posted 20/07/2010 13:20:34

Posted by YerMaw

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Lynne, I’m sorry to hear about your child and I really hope they get their confidence and life back because times are changing! Maybe not fast enough for a lot of us but it’s a start! I really have to agree with every one else and especially with Lily’s last comment that MtF breast surgery isn’t necessary but I DO think the MtF lower surgery IS. Good luck to you and your child and the rest of your family and I hope the future brings some happiness! Take care and all the best! =)

Posted 20/07/2010 14:18:00

Posted by Lynne01

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I hear what you're saying and agree I suppose to a certain extent. I think that the Breast op should only be offered where insufficient breast tissue has formed using drug therapy. I don't think that an op should be offered just because the breasts are small. Although I was under the impression that a woman who is psychologically damaged by her lack of breasts would be offered augmentation on the NHS then if that is the case so should a post op transgendered person.
Thank you for your kind words. I'm really fragile at the mo as my daughter has had to move away from home for her own safety. The local thugs chased her hurling abuse and she's scared to live here now.

Posted 20/07/2010 14:54:47

Posted by sugar sweet

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lynne01 those people are dispicable and disgraceful and i hope your daughter can find peace with herself. i still think its unfair that people are being refused cancer drugs though when people can have their genitials reassigned for free. whats makes me more angry though is people that get weight loss surgery on the nhs, they have to loose wight to qualify for the surgery but if they can loose weight naturally to have the surgery then they can do it to achieve their weight loss without the surgery!also drug addicts that get meth annoys me! if you choose to take drugs if your problem if your addict, many addicts just use their meth until they get their proper fix! anyway thats completely of the topic!

Posted 20/07/2010 16:16:25

Posted by Drewy

RE: Transexual sues NHS for not funding boob job

Get a F**king job, why the hell should all these people pay for your boob job. your a man F**king stay as 1

Posted 10/08/2010 14:01:54

Posted by gsneufeld

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Transsexualism is a neuroendocrinological disorder, which can't be treated by therapy. The only treatment that works is hormones and surgery. Mental problems can't be fixed with surgery, which proves that it's a medical problem, not a mental one. That's why sex reassignment is covered by medical.

Posted 16/08/2010 03:25:12

Posted by JenniAnne

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oh dear, more venom directed at those of us who do not fit the socially demanded gender marker.

Miranda is a woman, yes she has been helped by the NHS, to whom she has paid in thousands over her working life via her wages, to have her body altered, put right.

I agree she should pay for her boobs herself, the are only secondary sexual characteristics after all, but she should not be excluded from consideration.

If Jane Normal, was sexually assaulted and needed thousands of pounds of NHS treatment to put it right, should we then say 'Oh no babes, you have used your bit, pay for your councelling yourself'

Posted 20/08/2010 09:42:02

Posted by Lily-Grace

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what has sexual assault got to do with anything??
if someone has been through trauma like that no amount of cosmetic surgery will make it go away!
how dare you comment on such a subject, i can only hope that you never have to go through it!
IDIOT

Posted 20/08/2010 12:15:23

Posted by staceycat2010

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This person is a horrible sponge milking the nhs for all its worth!!! Nowadays you can get a boob job on finance so just get off ur arse and pay for it yourself MIRANDA LEE!!! Idiot!!!!

Posted 25/11/2010 14:05:33

Posted by DVbaby

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get a job like most other transgender people have, he is no different from others. i reackon he only did this so he/she could get some money to pay for it

Posted 07/02/2011 04:34:32

Posted by nippie221

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Pathetic!! I watched my mother suffer and die from breast cancer when i was 13, i'm 41 now and it still haunts me when i heard her screaming and crying with pain, there are children who suffer and die from lukemia, and this .......... is spunging for a boob job, you were born a man and you will never be anything else, no matter how much you alter your body, this money can be put to better use, instead of horrid low lifes who have no heart...

TS ops should be banned altogether, it's not normal and it's never going to be, it's people like him that make people so angry, Anyone that wants a sex change should go through the same pain as a cancer suferer for one week and then asked.. do they still think it's right to take away money that could be given to cancer research Etc.

These people make me physically sick, crying over their gender.... Get a life suck if up and get a job to pay for their cosmetic surgery. JOKERS

Posted 11/03/2011 10:19:12

Posted by loveme

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Hey, all u guys that have a negative attitude towards this need to "real" up!!! Gender Disphoria is a constant pain in all the meanings of the word, I was agreed funding for full sexual reasignment surgery but did not complete and as a result of this every day of my life is battered with a constant brain battle with myself!! im 35 now and i feel like dying because im not in the correct body. Good luck Miranda, do it for yourself and only yourself and make sure that the poison from these rats doesn't affect you!!!x

Posted 21/10/2011 01:31:16

Posted by AmyLouLang07

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As for it all coming from different departments - Plastic Surgery is one department. So what about the babies that are born with severe life threatening illnesses and deformities? Or women that are viscously attacked and scarred? Men who are in terrible car accidents and have severe damage to their faces? You think that they should come after this persons needs? I have no issue with transgender people. However, their problem is merely a lifestyle choice, and they should stick their hand in their back pocket and pay for it themselves. The NHS is in enough bother because of these moaning b******s. Its the same with fat people wanting Gastric bands and excess skin removal to fix the damage they've done. Its like little 15 year olds having boob jobs because they can't wait a few years and pay for it themselves. All those things contribute to the mess that is Britain. I suffer with severe kidney problems.. to the point where i can't move. Not because I'm depressed, or upset, because I am in physical pain. I am in bed for anything up to 2 weeks. sweating and writhing in agony. I pay NHS contribution every month in my tax. And who pays for my antibiotics when i get these kidney problems? ME.

I think a trip round a breast cancer ward might bring things home for you, and realise how truly self centred you are being RAYMOND.

Posted 12/01/2012 01:28:01